• Re: Windows Update's took

    From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Jagossel on Saturday, December 15, 2018 01:24:00
    Re: Re: Windows Update's took out
    By: Jagossel to Dumas Walker on Wed Dec 12 2018 05:53 am

    I've heard the same thing as well: Edge will be Chromium-based instead of their own engine. I wonder if this will apply to Internet Explorer as well and how this will work with a lot of Windows components depending on tbe Internet Explorer component.

    I thought Microsoft was phasing out Internet Explorer, to be replaced with Edge? After I upgraded to Windows 10, I had trouble installing a program I use which apparently uses some IE6 components. It seemed to be a common issue with that program, and I seem to remember finding a solution online that said to update some registry keys to let it install and run.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Denn on Saturday, December 15, 2018 01:27:00
    Re: Windows Update's took out chrome and Halo
    By: Denn to MRO on Wed Dec 12 2018 10:51 pm

    The term I used was took out, as in taking away the ability to run them.
    I solved the Chrome issue by installing the latest Firefox and Halo I uninstalled and reloaded to a different directory.

    I believe I'm using the latest Windows 10 updates, and Google Chrome still works for me. I have a hard time believing Microsoft would update Windows in such a way that a specific program wouldn't run anymore, but I suppose I could see them doing that. I remember hearing that Microsoft put code in Windows 3.1 and MS-DOS back in the day so that Windows 3.1 would only run on MS-DOS and wouldn't run on other DOS variants (such as DR-DOS, etc.).

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  • From Jagossel@VERT/OUTWEST to Nightfox on Saturday, December 15, 2018 06:36:00
    Nightfox, to MRO...

    my harddrives are too big to image. i would rather reinstall windows and then run a script to install necessary programs that i use.

    That's an interesting idea. I know some installers have a "quiet" mode
    so they can be automated, but not all of them do. Also, after
    installing everythigng fresh, I still have to go and change some of the settings to what I like (such as what programs to use to open photos
    and music, and the Windows power options for the monitor & hard drive, desktop background, etc.).

    I've been through so many reimages at work, I just gave up and wrote a PowerShell script to install the software that I need and to customize
    some applications. Among I have OneDrive available, I can easily recover
    froma other reimaging.

    Take a look at Chocolatey. It's built on top of Nuget package manager and
    it allows you to install some software like you would in Linux using yum, apt-get, or pacman.

    -jag
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  • From Jagossel@VERT/OUTWEST to Nightfox on Saturday, December 15, 2018 06:40:00
    Subject: Re: Windows Update's took out
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    Nightfox, to Jagossel...

    I've heard the same thing as well: Edge will be Chromium-based instead of their own engine. I wonder if this will apply to Internet Explorer as well and how this will work with a lot of Windows components depending on tbe Internet Explorer component.

    I thought Microsoft was phasing out Internet Explorer, to be replaced
    with Edge? After I upgraded to Windows 10, I had trouble installing a program I use which apparently uses some IE6 components. It seemed to
    be a common issue with that program, and I seem to remember finding a solution online that said to update some registry keys to let it
    install and run.

    If Microsoft is phasing out Internet Explorer and is in the process of
    getting their components off of Internet Explorer, then great! I would
    love to see Internet Explorer go.

    -jag
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Jagossel on Saturday, December 15, 2018 08:57:00
    Re: Re: Windows Update's took
    By: Jagossel to Nightfox on Fri Dec 14 2018 10:36 pm

    I've been through so many reimages at work, I just gave up and wrote a PowerShell script to install the software that I need and to customize some applications. Among I have OneDrive available, I can easily recover froma other reimaging.

    Take a look at Chocolatey. It's built on top of Nuget package manager and it allows you to install some software like you would in Linux using yum, apt-get, or pacman.

    I've heard of Chocolatey. I currently use Windows as my main OS at home though.

    I have the Windows installers of the software I often use, though I'm not sure all of it could be scripted for an automated install. For instance, one of the programs I use sometimes is GoldWave (an audio editing application), and I just tried running it on the command line with /?, but it didn't output any command line help, it just started its manual GUI installer.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Saturday, December 15, 2018 23:10:00
    Re: Re: Windows Update's took
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Fri Dec 14 2018 05:23 pm

    everythigng fresh, I still have to go and change some of the settings to what I like (such as what programs to use to open photos and music, and the Windows power options for the monitor & hard drive, desktop background, etc.).

    you can make .reg files that do that and for your desktop theme you can do a .theme file.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Jagossel on Saturday, December 15, 2018 23:35:00
    Re: Re: Windows Update's took
    By: Jagossel to Nightfox on Fri Dec 14 2018 10:36 pm

    Take a look at Chocolatey. It's built on top of Nuget package manager and it allows you to install some software like you would in Linux using yum, apt-get, or pacman.



    yeah, i love chocolatey. i just dont use it enough and i end up forgetting about it.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Saturday, December 15, 2018 23:36:00
    Re: Re: Windows Update's took
    By: Nightfox to Jagossel on Sat Dec 15 2018 12:57 am

    Take a look at Chocolatey. It's built on top of Nuget package manager and it allows you to install some software like you would in Linux using yum, apt-get, or pacman.

    I've heard of Chocolatey. I currently use Windows as my main OS at home though.


    it runs on windows. it takes all the work out of installing stuff.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Sunday, December 16, 2018 02:24:00
    Re: Re: Windows Update's took
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Sat Dec 15 2018 03:36 pm

    I've heard of Chocolatey. I currently use Windows as my main OS at
    home though.

    it runs on windows. it takes all the work out of installing stuff.

    I guess I'll have to check it out. Does it have a database where it knows where to download and install all the software you like to use, or is that something you configure?

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Sunday, December 16, 2018 06:34:00
    Re: Re: Windows Update's took
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Sat Dec 15 2018 06:24 pm

    Re: Re: Windows Update's took
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Sat Dec 15 2018 03:36 pm

    I've heard of Chocolatey. I currently use Windows as my main OS at
    home though.

    it runs on windows. it takes all the work out of installing stuff.

    I guess I'll have to check it out. Does it have a database where it knows where to download and install all the software you like to use, or is that something you configure?


    it's compariable to apt-get
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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Nightfox on Sunday, December 16, 2018 08:25:00
    Subject: Windows Update's took out chrome and Halo
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    Re: Windows Update's took out chrome and Halo
    By: Nightfox to Denn on Fri Dec 14 2018 05:27 pm

    I believe I'm using the latest Windows 10 updates, and Google Chrome still works for me. I have a hard time believing Microsoft would update Windows


    I still use Windows 7 except for my Laptop that I run 8.1

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  • From Reverb@VERT/CBLISS to Denn on Wednesday, December 19, 2018 17:05:00
    Re: Re: Windows Update's took out chrome and Halo
    By: Denn to Jagossel on Mon Dec 10 2018 09:09:08

    I have to wonder who's testing these patches before sending them out th door? I heard horror stories of the 10/2018 update wiping out the user profile/home folder.

    this update screwed up the C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games folder you gotta love Microshaft for all the money they take from us for crapware O I'm to the point where I may just load Ubuntu on all but one of my PC's.

    Unless you're a Microsoft developer or PC gamer there isn't really any compelling reason to run Windows - Firefox/Brave browser are multi-platform
    so Linux is a good desktop substitute for everyday use. I have tested
    MS Office 2010 in Wine which can open modern Office documents reliably
    (Libre Office has given me problems with some Excel macros). Netflix reportedly works if you are using the latest Google Chrome.

    I am a PC gamer although the only Windows version I have are 7 & 8.1 (it
    came with the laptop).

    There are plenty of Linux distros out there - I recommend Mint for
    Windows migrants.

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  • From Reverb@VERT/CBLISS to Chai on Wednesday, December 19, 2018 17:27:00
    Re: Re: Windows Update's took
    By: Chai to Nightfox on Tue Dec 11 2018 20:53:00

    I remember earlier versions of Windows let you burn that recovery data to a DVD disc if you wanted to..
    Just did a search and saw that Windows 10 should let you create a recovery drive with a USB flash drive:
    https://bit.ly/2yKazl2

    I just use Macrium Reflect Free or CloneZilla to image the HDD to an image file that I usually store on a dedicated portable 5200RPM USB drive.

    That way, I can do with as I please to the system and put it back to factory state if I ever change my mind. I've never had a laptop where this didn't work, although there's always a first.

    Longtime Acronis user here. Have used it to backup AND RESTORE Windows XP, 7, 8.1 and Ubuntu 12 (don't use Ubuntu anymore). I also use an external HD
    for imaging. Average restore time ~40 minutes (this does not include data,
    I always use a separate partition for that). Important data gets backed up
    to Dropbox. I like being able to restore my computer(s) to full functionality including all drivers and apps in under an hour using Acronis' bootable
    media. I tried this using Windows 7 system restore and that took 2 hours. Please don't mistake this as an advertisement for Acronis' product, I was
    a longtime Ghost user since the DOS days till it failed to restore an old XP machine I had. A backup is not a backup until you've successfully restored from it. Yes I am a drive imaging fanboi.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Reverb on Wednesday, December 19, 2018 23:45:00
    Re: Re: Windows Update's took out chrome and Halo
    By: Reverb to Denn on Wed Dec 19 2018 09:05 am

    Unless you're a Microsoft developer or PC gamer there isn't really any compelling reason to run Windows - Firefox/Brave browser are multi-platform so Linux is a good desktop substitute for everyday use. I have tested

    i'm neither and i run windows because i like it.
    it does exactly what i want it to do. i prefer to run servers on linux.

    i dont like any linux gui and i think they are just poor copies of windows or mac.

    i havent been compromised on windows but i have on linux.
    firefox is a piece of shit, btw.
    I am a PC gamer although the only Windows version I have are 7 & 8.1 (it came with the laptop).


    you should have updated to 10.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Reverb on Wednesday, December 19, 2018 23:45:00
    Re: Re: Windows Update's took
    By: Reverb to Chai on Wed Dec 19 2018 09:27 am

    Longtime Acronis user here. Have used it to backup AND RESTORE Windows XP, 7, 8.1 and Ubuntu 12 (don't use Ubuntu anymore). I also use an external HD for imaging. Average restore time ~40 minutes (this does not include data,


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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Reverb on Thursday, December 20, 2018 07:13:00
    Subject: Re: Windows Update's took out chrome and Halo
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    Re: Re: Windows Update's took out chrome and Halo
    By: Reverb to Denn on Wed Dec 19 2018 09:05 am

    I am a PC gamer although the only Windows version I have are 7 & 8.1 (it came with the laptop).

    I run windows 7 on 3 PC's and 8.1 on my laptop, still like 7 the best.

    There are plenty of Linux distros out there - I recommend Mint for
    Windows migrants.

    I run one PI (PI3) on raspian the (PI2) I run Ubuntu
    I run Lubuntu on my VPS's

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Nightfox on Thursday, December 20, 2018 07:22:00
    Subject: Windows Update's took out chrome and Halo
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    Re: Windows Update's took out chrome and Halo
    By: Nightfox to Denn on Fri Dec 14 2018 05:27 pm

    I believe I'm using the latest Windows 10 updates, and Google Chrome still works for me. I have a hard time believing Microsoft would update Windows in such a way that a specific program wouldn't run anymore, but I suppose I could see them doing that. I remember hearing that Microsoft put code in Windows 3.1 and MS-DOS back in the day so that Windows 3.1 would only run on MS-DOS and wouldn't run on other DOS variants (such as DR-DOS, etc.).


    I got everything running again and keeping my fingers crossed it dosent happen again.

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Denn on Friday, December 21, 2018 03:08:00
    On 12-19-18 23:13, Denn wrote to Reverb <=-

    I am a PC gamer although the only Windows version I have are 7 & 8.1 (it came with the laptop).

    I'm not. Closest thing I come to "playing a game" is that thing in the real world called "sport". :D

    I run windows 7 on 3 PC's and 8.1 on my laptop, still like 7 the best.

    I'm running Windows 7 on here. This is my main Windows desktop, though desktop duties are split batween this PC and another running Mint.

    There are plenty of Linux distros out there - I recommend Mint for
    Windows migrants.

    Mint is very good.

    I run one PI (PI3) on raspian the (PI2) I run Ubuntu
    I run Lubuntu on my VPS's

    I run Raspian on the Pi boards that I have (don't use the GUI). I've mentioned the desktop running Mint. Bush Track runs on a netbook which is running Debian Stretch, and I have another netbook running Lubuntu, which I use for travelling. It has all the stuff I need for BBSing. :)


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  • From Jagossel@VERT/MTLGEEK to MRO on Thursday, December 20, 2018 14:07:00
    Re: Re: Windows Update's took out chrome and Halo
    By: MRO to Reverb on Wed Dec 19 2018 15:45:27

    i dont like any linux gui and i think they are just poor copies of windows o mac.

    That's my issue with themes on GNU/Linux: too many of them try to look a lot like MacOSX or Windows. Why can't there be creative themes that are different? It's hard to find, really.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Thursday, December 20, 2018 21:30:00
    Re: Re: Windows Update's took out chrome and Halo
    By: MRO to Reverb on Wed Dec 19 2018 03:45 pm

    i'm neither and i run windows because i like it.
    it does exactly what i want it to do. i prefer to run servers on linux.

    i dont like any linux gui and i think they are just poor copies of windows or mac.

    I think the Linux GUIs generally tend to work well.. Some have specifically claimed they were trying to copy the Windows experience (I remember KDE saying that back around 2000 or so). Currently I like Linux Mint with its Cinnamon interface, and I haven't really had any problems with it.

    i havent been compromised on windows but i have on linux.

    What kind of attack/compromise was it? They say Windows is more often targeted because of how many people use Windows.

    firefox is a piece of shit, btw.

    Yeah, I used to use Firefox but haven't used it in a long time. I stopped liking it when they started making its UI more like Google Chrome. Also it seems to be a memory hog (but many web browsers do though, that's not just Firefox).

    you should have updated to 10.

    Some people prefer the UI in Windows 7. I tend to think Windows 8 and 10 have a fugly UI, but I upgraded to 10. It's good to use something that's currently being maintained and gets security updates.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Jagossel on Thursday, December 20, 2018 21:34:00
    Re: Re: Windows Update's took out chrome and Halo
    By: Jagossel to MRO on Thu Dec 20 2018 06:07 am

    That's my issue with themes on GNU/Linux: too many of them try to look a lot like MacOSX or Windows. Why can't there be creative themes that are different? It's hard to find, really.

    A long time ago, I thought I saw plenty of themes for Linux GUIs, some that did copy Windows and OS X, but I thought there were plenty of others too. Actually, I don't recall seeing much GUI theme support in Linux lately, perhaps other than with Gnome. Currently my favorite Linux distro is Linux Mint with the Cinnamon UI, and I don't remember if it has theme support..

    In Windows, I've been using Stardock WindowBlinds to change the look & feel of Windows, because I think the Windows 10 UI is generally fugly.. though, it seems there aren't many WindowBlinds themes that are 100% compatible with Windows 10, and sometimes it doesn't work perfect - sometimes some things in an app aren't aligned properly with it, and there have been incompatibilies with certan apps that would cause a crash (which have been fixed). Also, another thing I've noticed is that some apps for Windows (Microsoft's own apps in particular) seem to do their own custom GUI drawing, not using the Windows standard UI drawing, so WindowBlinds doesn't skin those apps..

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Friday, December 21, 2018 02:19:00
    Re: Re: Windows Update's took out chrome and Halo
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Thu Dec 20 2018 01:30 pm

    i havent been compromised on windows but i have on linux.

    What kind of attack/compromise was it? They say Windows is more often targeted because of how many people use Windows.


    it was a while ago but it was an OS/software combo. scared me that someone could get in. i was running updates.

    oh i did get my windows servers compromised. i forgot about that. they didnt do anything bad. just encryped my shit and tried to get me to pay.

    i dropped my firewalls and forgot to put them back up and they used an exploit. also i wasnt updating. so that's all my fault.

    they didnt get anything and i restored an update pretty quick.

    firefox is a piece of shit, btw.

    Yeah, I used to use Firefox but haven't used it in a long time. I stopped liking it when they started making its UI more like Google Chrome. Also it

    i used it because it had a few nice addons. it just uses way too much memory. it will be sitting doing nothing and it's using 2gigs or more. they keep saying they fixed the issues, but still happening.

    Some people prefer the UI in Windows 7. I tend to think Windows 8 and 10 have a fugly UI, but I upgraded to 10. It's good to use something that's currently being maintained and gets security updates.


    i use a different start menu and the only big stuff i see is in the file explorer with the larger icon section before the file bar
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Friday, December 21, 2018 01:19:00
    Re: Re: Windows Update's took out chrome and Halo
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Dec 20 2018 06:19 pm

    oh i did get my windows servers compromised. i forgot about that. they didnt do anything bad. just encryped my shit and tried to get me to pay.

    Yeah, I remember hearing about that exploit going around a couple years ago.

    i use a different start menu and the only big stuff i see is in the file explorer with the larger icon section before the file bar

    I use a different Start menu in Windows 10 too - Classic Shell. I even downloaded a Windows 7 style Start menu icon that I'm using with it.

    Nightfox

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  • From Reverb@VERT/CBLISS to MRO on Friday, December 21, 2018 16:48:00
    Re: Re: Windows Update's took out chrome and Halo
    By: MRO to Reverb on Wed Dec 19 2018 15:45:27

    I am a PC gamer although the only Windows version I have are 7 & 8.1 (it came with the laptop).


    you should have updated to 10.
    No thanks. An OS with forced updates that causes problems requiring hours to fix is not an OS I will be using.

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  • From Jagossel@VERT/OUTWEST to Nightfox on Friday, December 21, 2018 15:48:00
    Subject: Re: Windows Update's took out chrome and Halo
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    Nightfox, to Jagossel...

    In Windows, I've been using Stardock WindowBlinds to change the look & feel of Windows, because I think the Windows 10 UI is generally fugly..
    though, it seems there aren't many WindowBlinds themes that are 100% compatible with Windows 10, and sometimes it doesn't work perfect - sometimes some things in an app aren't aligned properly with it, and
    there have been incompatibilies with certan apps that would cause a
    crash (which have been fixed). Also, another thing I've noticed is
    that some apps for Windows (Microsoft's own apps in particular) seem to
    do their own custom GUI drawing, not using the Windows standard UI drawing, so WindowBlinds doesn't skin those apps..

    You may have already guessed this as well, but I suspect the alignment and
    the wierdness of themes in Windows 10 might have something to do with Microsoft's big push or move to use UWP (might have gotten the acronym
    wrong, I hope you know what I mean) over other UIs. For some weird reason, using higher resolutions causes Windows 10 to jack up the "zoom". I plugged
    my work laptop to one of the 4K TVs in the conference room and Windows 10 thought it would look better if it jacked up the resolution to the full 4K
    and the zoom to 300%. That caused my other applications that wasn't using
    UWP to be really tiny. I just gave up and forced it to be 1920x1080 and the zoom back to 100%; looked much better and I took a sigh of relief.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Jagossel on Friday, December 21, 2018 23:08:00
    Re: Re: Windows Update's took out chrome and Halo
    By: Jagossel to Nightfox on Fri Dec 21 2018 07:48 am

    In Windows, I've been using Stardock WindowBlinds to change the look
    & feel of Windows, because I think the Windows 10 UI is generally
    fugly.. though, it seems there aren't many WindowBlinds themes that
    are 100% compatible with Windows 10, and sometimes it doesn't work
    perfect - sometimes some things in an app aren't aligned properly

    You may have already guessed this as well, but I suspect the alignment and the wierdness of themes in Windows 10 might have something to do with Microsoft's big push or move to use UWP (might have gotten the acronym wrong, I hope you know what I mean) over other UIs. For some weird reason,

    I haven't heard of that exactly from Microsoft, but I'm guessing it may be the new Windows 10 app interface (vs. the traditional desktop interface)?

    using higher resolutions causes Windows 10 to jack up the "zoom". I plugged my work laptop to one of the 4K TVs in the conference room and Windows 10 thought it would look better if it jacked up the resolution to the full 4K and the zoom to 300%. That caused my other applications that wasn't using UWP to be really tiny. I just gave up and forced it to be 1920x1080 and the zoom back to 100%; looked much better and I took a sigh of relief.

    I've seen some weirdness with the Windows 10 UI too. I think it does zoom the interface a bit for high resolution screens; otherwise the icons, fonts, and things would be fairly small. I've also seen some weirdness with Windows Remote Desktop in Windows 10 - If I have a 1920x1080 screen and the remote system is also using the same size screen, I've seen instances where I'm using Remote Desktop to connect to the other system and it acts like the resolution is lower. And when I disconnect and then go to the physical system, the application windows are all crammed into a smaller area of the screen. It's weird..

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Reverb on Saturday, December 22, 2018 04:19:00
    Re: Re: Windows Update's took out chrome and Halo
    By: Reverb to MRO on Fri Dec 21 2018 08:48 am

    you should have updated to 10.
    No thanks. An OS with forced updates that causes problems requiring hours to fix is not an OS I will be using.



    i wouldnt use an OS like that neither. that's not what windows 10 is.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Saturday, December 22, 2018 18:52:00
    Re: Re: Windows Update's took out chrome and Halo
    By: MRO to Reverb on Fri Dec 21 2018 08:19 pm

    No thanks. An OS with forced updates that causes problems requiring
    hours to fix is not an OS I will be using.

    i wouldnt use an OS like that neither. that's not what windows 10 is.

    It might not take hours to fix (in my experience), but having personal settings reverted after an update is a little annoying.. I've had that happen multiple times with Windows 10.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Sunday, December 23, 2018 02:08:00
    Re: Re: Windows Update's took out chrome and Halo
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Sat Dec 22 2018 10:52 am

    Re: Re: Windows Update's took out chrome and Halo
    By: MRO to Reverb on Fri Dec 21 2018 08:19 pm

    No thanks. An OS with forced updates that causes problems requiring
    hours to fix is not an OS I will be using.

    i wouldnt use an OS like that neither. that's not what windows 10 is.

    It might not take hours to fix (in my experience), but having personal settings reverted after an update is a little annoying.. I've had that happen multiple times with Windows 10.


    yeah, but it's not big personal settings. i havent had it happen in quite a while actually. they might have fixed that issue.
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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Reverb on Monday, December 24, 2018 02:30:00
    Re: Re: Windows Update's took out chrome and Halo
    By: Reverb to MRO on Fri Dec 21 2018 08:48 am

    you should have updated to 10.
    No thanks. An OS with forced updates that causes problems requiring hours to fix is not an OS I will be using.

    I run windows 10. My PC updates usually when I'm not around, and I've never had a problem that required hours to fix.

    I've had plenty of problems that have required DAYS or WEEKS to try and fix with Linux though, but dealing with such things is my actual job.

    DaiTengu

    ... Want to have some fun? Walk into an antique shop and say, What's new?

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  • From kdarcangelis@VERT/ORLDARCN to Reverb on Friday, January 04, 2019 05:38:00
    Re: Re: Windows Update's took out chrome and Halo
    By: Reverb to MRO on Fri Dec 21 2018 08:48 am

    Re: Re: Windows Update's took out chrome and Halo
    By: MRO to Reverb on Wed Dec 19 2018 15:45:27

    I am a PC gamer although the only Windows version I have are 7 & 8.1
    (it
    came with the laptop).


    you should have updated to 10.
    No thanks. An OS with forced updates that causes problems requiring hours to fix is not an OS I will be using.


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